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[KenKun]

And you wait a year? Do not report me first? Where are the papers of the complaint?
Sorry but does not hold up

Maybe you promised to ship the watch? Not easy to know.
I think that there is a lot more emails that you are not sharing

 

[Seikosthlm]

Interesting to see how this thread will end.

 

[Fido1]

What conversation?
Only ransom demand anonymous
And I 've posted

I also have a hard time thinking it can only be one email. And also if it was an anonymous demand, how do you know it is the same person writing here has written the demand?

 

[Skolläraren]

How should I tell? There is no precedent!

So that e-mail is the only one you have received from the customer? A random e-mail that appears to be a follow-up to a previous attempt at contact with you? Why would he phrase it like this if he had not previously tried to threaten you?

 

[Hoarz]

Lägg ner. Bollen ligger hos TS. Vad är ert problem?

 

[Alfredo]

I wanted to send the email to moderators
I did not want to go public
I had to do so because the 'attachment failed to attach
This person wrote in other forums

 

[Alfredo]

So that e-mail is the only one you have received from the customer? A random e-mail that appears to be a follow-up to a previous attempt at contact with you? Why would he phrase it like this if he had not previously tried to threaten you?

Easy, to get paid !

 

[Alfredo]

Maybe you promised to ship the watch? Not easy to know.
I think that there is a lot more emails that you are not sharing

Perhaps your grandmother has a wheelbarrow?
I think you did not understand that we do not know

 

[Alfredo]

All investigators
It is not necessary to have bought from us to know
Maybe it's the betrayed wife who saw a receipt
Perhaps it is a partner cheated that saw a receipt
Perhaps it is a thief who took a receipt
Perhaps it is a courier
We will investigate

 

[horologium]

@Alfredo - simple yes/no question that you have been asked several times but, as far as i know, yet have to answer.

Is the email shown the one and ONLY email you have ever received from TS/OP?

 

[Karatekid]

All investigators
It is not necessary to have bought from us to know
Maybe it's the betrayed wife who saw a receipt
Perhaps it is a partner cheated that saw a receipt
Perhaps it is a thief who took a receipt
Perhaps it is a courier
We will investigate

Hehe, what are you talking about?

 

[Alfredo]

@Alfredo - simple yes/no question that you have been asked several times but, as far as i know, yet have to answer.
Is the email shown the one and ONLY email you have ever received from TS/OP?

No other requests sent these days
Starting today nothing
All similar to that posted
All anonymous

 

[KenKun]

Perhaps your grandmother has a wheelbarrow?
I think you did not understand that we do not know

Wow, answering like a real pro

 

[aleksi]

Skumt att ts skapar ny användare och sen inte skriver något mer om detta. Nu tror jag med på alfredo iaf.

 

[Alfredo]

Hehe, what are you talking about?

I speak of what some here say.
That this gentleman knows us.
It is not necessary.
The data can have them obtained from a receipt

 

[Alfredo]

Wow, answering like a real pro

I'm sorry, but I have told you five times that do not know him

 

[Karatekid]

I speak of what some here say.
That this gentleman knows us.
It is not necessary.
The data can have them obtained from a receipt

Yes but you are making yourself quite unpopular dodging questions from the members. Give the people what they want, upload the whole email conversation without hiding anything and your reputation will remain clean... Now you're making yourself look quite suspicious...

 

[horologium]

Is the email shown the one and ONLY email you have ever received from TS/OP?

No other requests sent these days
Starting today nothing
All similar to that posted
All anonymous

So i guess your answer is NO, you do have received other emails from the same email-address. Why not post all of them here?

 

[Alfredo]

So i guess your answer is NO, you do have received other emails from the same email-address. Why not post all of them here?

Because tomorrow we will present complaint. This is not a court.
The evidence are presented in court
Not in Forums
Anyway the gentleman is disappeared or is disguised under a different user. But we are here

 

[KenKun]

Because tomorrow we will present complaint. This is not a court.
The evidence are presented in court
Not in Forums
Anyway the gentleman is disappeared or is disguised under a different user. But we are here

If you have the evidence, but is refusing to show it to us, why are you even here?

 

[horologium]

The evidence are presented in court
Not in Forums

I thought you tried to present evidence here to back your claims. If you are not, i find it a bit strange that you are posting here at all. Just as i find TS/OP absence strange.

 

[Alfredo]

If you have the evidence, but is refusing to show it to us, why are you even here?

I'm here because someone accuses us without evidence
Where is the evidence?

You ask me the evidence.
But I the evidence ask him
Take out what holds in his hand

 

[Ken]

1:0 for Alfredo

 

[KenKun]

På tal om att TS inte postar, det har hänt flera gånger här på KS att nya medlemmar gör ett långt inlägg om hur de har blivit rånade på sina dyra klockor och sedan aldrig loggar in igen.
Just i detta fall så handlar det såklart inte om något rån. Ville bara få fram att vissa bara vill dela med sig, och inte har någon större lust att vara aktiv på ett forum...

Men visst hade det underlättat, om TS lade fram bevis.

 

[KenKun]

I'm here because someone accuses us without evidence
Where is the evidence?

You ask me the evidence.
But I the evidence ask him
Take out what holds in his hand

Other users on other forums had problems with you before. That also counts as evidence

 

[Alfredo]

På tal om att TS inte postar, det har hänt flera gånger här på KS att nya medlemmar gör ett långt inlägg om hur de har blivit rånade på sina dyra klockor och sedan aldrig loggar in igen.
Just i detta fall så handlar det såklart inte om något rån. Ville bara få fram att vissa bara vill dela med sig, och inte har någon större lust att vara aktiv på ett forum...

Men visst hade det underlättat, om TS lade fram bevis.

They were stolen of 12,000 euro and not answer?
You are crazy ?

 

[Karatekid]

I'm here because someone accuses us without evidence
Where is the evidence?

You ask me the evidence.
But I the evidence ask him
Take out what holds in his hand

If I was you, I'd care more about what 8k potential customers think rather than what the court will say

 

[Kung Midas]

Min uppfattning efter att ha läst hela TS länk till TRF är att i fallet där rörde det sig om ett missförstånd som va illa skött av försäljaren, antingen pga språkproblem eller kulturella skillnader (eller rent dumhet). Det fallet löste sig dock och TS på TRF fick tillbaka pengarna (skillnaden var ett avrundningsfel i valuta/transaktionskostnad). Detta inlägget är det enda negativa jag hittar från någon med fler än 4 poster på TRF och de andra negativa posterna i den tråden känns väldigt tveksamma.

I detta fallet här är det svårare. Hade jag varit utpressare hade jag också gett mig på näthandlare som har lite historia av att vara klantiga och där sökningar ger någon träff. Så det kan ju mycket väl vara så att TS här inte har rent mjöl i påsen även om inte cr*n*agent är helt klanderfria. Svårt.

Det är lite påfallande att TS inte har visat sig sedan öppnandet av tråden, jag tycker Wboy:s analys av situationen verkar kunna vara vettig...

 

[Alfredo]

For you it is a hobby
You play to make investigators
For us this is an image damage
We risk to close
Posts like these should be prohibited
The processes are done in the courts. Not in Forums

 

[Karatekid]

For you it is a hobby
You play to make investigators
For us this is an image damage
We risk to close
Posts like these should be prohibited
The processes are done in the courts. Not in Forums

hence why you have more to lose by withholding potential information... you're not really cooperating here...