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Säljer min automatisk The Citizen, också kallad Chronomaster. Här är en jättebra recension från Reddits u/rednefed:
"On my recent trip to Japan, I made sure to stop by a number of watch shops, looking to take home a timepiece that would remind me of my first journey to the land of the rising sun. Before I go any further, let me say this: Japan is an awesome country, well worth a visit of any length - I fully expect to go back some day.
With so many very special Japanese watches to choose from, I decided on a piece from Citizen's JDM-only "The Citizen" line. The watches in this series are less well-known than Grand Seiko, but are most famous for the Chronomaster series of high-accuracy quartz watches rated to +/- 5 seconds per year. Citizen has also released quite a number of high-accuracy Eco-Drives, and retains an automatic model with either a black- or champagne-colored dial in The Citizen lineup. This watch, the NA0000-59B, is the latter.
Since catalog shots are apparently a thing now, let's start with one. It's all in Japanese, well past the level of what my high school class taught me.
Unboxing. The box did its job, taking its lumps while sitting in my luggage. The outer box is nothing special, just black cardboard with a silver Citizen logo and some interior reinforcement. Opening it up, we find something nicer on the inside, definitely better packaging than your run-of-the-mill Eco-Drive. A tasteful, simple execution that suits this particular watch well.
The watch. Whether Citizen decided to copy the aesthetics of Grand Seiko, or if this is just what the Japanese as a culture think their high end watches should look like is up for debate. There is no denying, however, that the watch is designed with understated elegance in mind, with its classic proportions and very legible face. It's a watch that's unlikely to draw attention to itself... it's no gold Rolex or massive Invicta. It's not even as flashy as Citizen's own Signature collection automatics sold elsewhere in the world, despite being over twice as expensive. My guess is that the price reflects the level of manual work done by hand on these watches. Nearly every store salesperson, when I mentioned I wanted to look at The Citizen, would mention that they're assembled by hand.
Fit and finish. I had the pleasure of handling the many different models of The Citizen and Grand Seiko, and I'm happy to say that The Citizen models, as a whole, are finished just as well as Grand Seikos. Maybe even better, though the lack of double-sided antireflective coating on some Grand Seikos could have been a factor. As such, the watch makes a great first impression. A solid, multi-link bracelet with no play, zaratsu polishing causing clean, sharp lines, and perfect alignment of everything, even the case back. Since this is the first close-up look at this kind of watch for many of us, let's dive right in.
The dialwork is a labor of love. The indices are polished to a mirror finish. Each of the little minute markers, and the silver "Automatic" text, is applied (not painted on) to the dial. Citizen even placed a small double-marker at 3 o'clock next to the date window. The date wheel itself is your typical Citizen/Miyota one, properly centered in the aperture. (The black version of this watch uses a white-on-black date wheel.) Moving on to the handset, we can see the faceting on the hands and how well they're polished. The watch's clean look is furthered by the cap over the seconds hand at the pinion, and I've come to appreciate that little touch, which makes all my other watches look a bit unsophisticated. Even the Citizen logo sits on a couple of 'feet' to give itself a bit more presence over the dial.
Here's a look at the dial, and the case finishing. It's easy to see one problem ... the metal easily picks up smudges and fingerprints. The bezel is highly polished and the case has a couple levels of polish as well, which result in a harmonious appearance. I must admit to not being terribly picky regarding case finishing, but the quality of the work is a noticeable step up from watches in the < $1000 range. Case diameter is 37 mm, thickness is 10.9 mm, with 100 meters water resistance. Overall, I'd say that the finishing is a bit better than that of my Signature collection Grand Classic, but not by much.
Each bracelet link has three separate levels of polishing, with the sides of the links themselves (i.e., where the screws are) different yet again. Turning the watch over to see the signed clasp, the polishing on the bracelet links is a easier to see now. In terms of comfort, the bracelet is comfortable, not too heavy. That is important to me right now, since the store re-sized it a tad too small for me. The individual links allow some flexibility. Both the bracelet and case employ Citizen's Duratect anti-scratch treatment. This doesn't make it immune to getting nicked around (ask me how I know), but it's better than nothing. The only fine adjustment is through half-links at the clasp.
Movement. The Citizen Automatic uses caliber 0910, which appears in no other mechanical Citizen watch. Basic specifications are pretty mundane: 42-hour power reserve, 28800 beats per hour, 27 jewels, unidirectional winding (all Citizen/Miyotas wind in one direction only). The movement itself is pretty nicely decorated with a beautiful rotor. Citizen claims that the bridges and plates that you can't see through the back are also nicely finished, but it'll be at least a couple years until I find out whether that's true or not. Note that caliber 0910 is not the 9010 (and later 9011) that appeared in the Signature collection, nor the 9015 found in so many other watches. The 0910 has a fine regulator screw that the 901x lack, and a couple other differences visible through the case back, but there is otherwise very little information to be found on the 0910. All I can tell you is that the 0910 rotor is much quieter and the watch seems less prone to rotor-induced wobble than the 9011, but that could be a bracelet vs. strap thing.
Accuracy specs are -5 to +10 seconds per day, which is on par with other watches in the price range - Longines, for example, states that most of their watches should expect to run -5 to +15 seconds per day. Anyone desiring The Citizen and absolute accuracy, however, would have been much better served buying one of the solar or quartz models, which are the most accurate watches in the world (not using GPS or atomic sync). In the little time I've had The Citizen, it's running within specification at +8.2 seconds per day. For comparison, my Grand Classic, which has taken its share of knocks, is at +2.3 seconds per day. As we well know, a more expensive watch's movement is not guaranteed to be any more accurate than a cheaper one! I am going to run my two mechanical Citizen watches head-to-head until daylight saving time ends to see how they compare - both to each other, and to specification, in various positions. Stay tuned for results in a month.
On the wrist. I've made no secret of having small 6-inch wrists, so a watch this size looks very well fitted on me. I won't lie: I prefer my watches larger, in the 40-43 mm range as my wrist is flat and can handle it... as long as the lugs are short. Plus, years of wearing Fossils and digital Casios made me very used to larger watches. Yet The Citizen is probably the one that can make me appreciate smaller watches. It practically begs me to wear it. While it won't be my watch of choice in the lab, I'd be happy to see it on my wrist any other time. The small size and thickness keeps the weight down, which I appreciate - so much that I might keep this watch on the bracelet since the watch head and bracelet work so well together. I'm usually a strap guy, and one could pair this watch with many kinds of leather... we'll see."
Och här är hans album med foton av klockan:
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(I'll turn to English now because writing in Swedish is a bit difficult for me) I bought the watch in 2017 from the Japanese Yahoo Auctions. After VAT and shipping, it cost about 1750e. I used it for one and a half years, but wanting to try out different watches, I sold it to a Finnish watch enthusiast. However, I bought it back from him after he had serviced it in the summer 2019, and I have used it since a few times a week.
The watch is generally in good shape. There are small swirls and scratches on the bezel and the case, and there is a small gash in one of the bracelet links which I got from rock climbing with the watch. No scratches on the backside glass or the crystal. The watch was serviced in June 2019, and a receipt of the service is included. Originally, the watch is from 2015, and the original warranty card, manual etc. are also included. So all in all, this is a full set in good condition. The bracelet is sized for my under-17cm wrist, but five spare links are included for larger wrists. Case size is 37mm, 19mm bracelet.
As far as I am aware, there are only a few of these in all of Europe, as these are Japanese Domestic Models which were made in very small numbers. So no chance of running into one of these in an elevator
I am asking 13000SEK (used to be 16000SEK) delivered to Sweden / EU. Face to face is unfortunately not possible, as I live in Finland. Paypal works for the payment, as does bank transfer – Swish, however, does not work outside of Sweden. Trades are also ok depending on the watch.
"On my recent trip to Japan, I made sure to stop by a number of watch shops, looking to take home a timepiece that would remind me of my first journey to the land of the rising sun. Before I go any further, let me say this: Japan is an awesome country, well worth a visit of any length - I fully expect to go back some day.
With so many very special Japanese watches to choose from, I decided on a piece from Citizen's JDM-only "The Citizen" line. The watches in this series are less well-known than Grand Seiko, but are most famous for the Chronomaster series of high-accuracy quartz watches rated to +/- 5 seconds per year. Citizen has also released quite a number of high-accuracy Eco-Drives, and retains an automatic model with either a black- or champagne-colored dial in The Citizen lineup. This watch, the NA0000-59B, is the latter.
Since catalog shots are apparently a thing now, let's start with one. It's all in Japanese, well past the level of what my high school class taught me.
Unboxing. The box did its job, taking its lumps while sitting in my luggage. The outer box is nothing special, just black cardboard with a silver Citizen logo and some interior reinforcement. Opening it up, we find something nicer on the inside, definitely better packaging than your run-of-the-mill Eco-Drive. A tasteful, simple execution that suits this particular watch well.
The watch. Whether Citizen decided to copy the aesthetics of Grand Seiko, or if this is just what the Japanese as a culture think their high end watches should look like is up for debate. There is no denying, however, that the watch is designed with understated elegance in mind, with its classic proportions and very legible face. It's a watch that's unlikely to draw attention to itself... it's no gold Rolex or massive Invicta. It's not even as flashy as Citizen's own Signature collection automatics sold elsewhere in the world, despite being over twice as expensive. My guess is that the price reflects the level of manual work done by hand on these watches. Nearly every store salesperson, when I mentioned I wanted to look at The Citizen, would mention that they're assembled by hand.
Fit and finish. I had the pleasure of handling the many different models of The Citizen and Grand Seiko, and I'm happy to say that The Citizen models, as a whole, are finished just as well as Grand Seikos. Maybe even better, though the lack of double-sided antireflective coating on some Grand Seikos could have been a factor. As such, the watch makes a great first impression. A solid, multi-link bracelet with no play, zaratsu polishing causing clean, sharp lines, and perfect alignment of everything, even the case back. Since this is the first close-up look at this kind of watch for many of us, let's dive right in.
The dialwork is a labor of love. The indices are polished to a mirror finish. Each of the little minute markers, and the silver "Automatic" text, is applied (not painted on) to the dial. Citizen even placed a small double-marker at 3 o'clock next to the date window. The date wheel itself is your typical Citizen/Miyota one, properly centered in the aperture. (The black version of this watch uses a white-on-black date wheel.) Moving on to the handset, we can see the faceting on the hands and how well they're polished. The watch's clean look is furthered by the cap over the seconds hand at the pinion, and I've come to appreciate that little touch, which makes all my other watches look a bit unsophisticated. Even the Citizen logo sits on a couple of 'feet' to give itself a bit more presence over the dial.
Here's a look at the dial, and the case finishing. It's easy to see one problem ... the metal easily picks up smudges and fingerprints. The bezel is highly polished and the case has a couple levels of polish as well, which result in a harmonious appearance. I must admit to not being terribly picky regarding case finishing, but the quality of the work is a noticeable step up from watches in the < $1000 range. Case diameter is 37 mm, thickness is 10.9 mm, with 100 meters water resistance. Overall, I'd say that the finishing is a bit better than that of my Signature collection Grand Classic, but not by much.
Each bracelet link has three separate levels of polishing, with the sides of the links themselves (i.e., where the screws are) different yet again. Turning the watch over to see the signed clasp, the polishing on the bracelet links is a easier to see now. In terms of comfort, the bracelet is comfortable, not too heavy. That is important to me right now, since the store re-sized it a tad too small for me. The individual links allow some flexibility. Both the bracelet and case employ Citizen's Duratect anti-scratch treatment. This doesn't make it immune to getting nicked around (ask me how I know), but it's better than nothing. The only fine adjustment is through half-links at the clasp.
Movement. The Citizen Automatic uses caliber 0910, which appears in no other mechanical Citizen watch. Basic specifications are pretty mundane: 42-hour power reserve, 28800 beats per hour, 27 jewels, unidirectional winding (all Citizen/Miyotas wind in one direction only). The movement itself is pretty nicely decorated with a beautiful rotor. Citizen claims that the bridges and plates that you can't see through the back are also nicely finished, but it'll be at least a couple years until I find out whether that's true or not. Note that caliber 0910 is not the 9010 (and later 9011) that appeared in the Signature collection, nor the 9015 found in so many other watches. The 0910 has a fine regulator screw that the 901x lack, and a couple other differences visible through the case back, but there is otherwise very little information to be found on the 0910. All I can tell you is that the 0910 rotor is much quieter and the watch seems less prone to rotor-induced wobble than the 9011, but that could be a bracelet vs. strap thing.
Accuracy specs are -5 to +10 seconds per day, which is on par with other watches in the price range - Longines, for example, states that most of their watches should expect to run -5 to +15 seconds per day. Anyone desiring The Citizen and absolute accuracy, however, would have been much better served buying one of the solar or quartz models, which are the most accurate watches in the world (not using GPS or atomic sync). In the little time I've had The Citizen, it's running within specification at +8.2 seconds per day. For comparison, my Grand Classic, which has taken its share of knocks, is at +2.3 seconds per day. As we well know, a more expensive watch's movement is not guaranteed to be any more accurate than a cheaper one! I am going to run my two mechanical Citizen watches head-to-head until daylight saving time ends to see how they compare - both to each other, and to specification, in various positions. Stay tuned for results in a month.
On the wrist. I've made no secret of having small 6-inch wrists, so a watch this size looks very well fitted on me. I won't lie: I prefer my watches larger, in the 40-43 mm range as my wrist is flat and can handle it... as long as the lugs are short. Plus, years of wearing Fossils and digital Casios made me very used to larger watches. Yet The Citizen is probably the one that can make me appreciate smaller watches. It practically begs me to wear it. While it won't be my watch of choice in the lab, I'd be happy to see it on my wrist any other time. The small size and thickness keeps the weight down, which I appreciate - so much that I might keep this watch on the bracelet since the watch head and bracelet work so well together. I'm usually a strap guy, and one could pair this watch with many kinds of leather... we'll see."
Och här är hans album med foton av klockan:
=====
(I'll turn to English now because writing in Swedish is a bit difficult for me) I bought the watch in 2017 from the Japanese Yahoo Auctions. After VAT and shipping, it cost about 1750e. I used it for one and a half years, but wanting to try out different watches, I sold it to a Finnish watch enthusiast. However, I bought it back from him after he had serviced it in the summer 2019, and I have used it since a few times a week.
The watch is generally in good shape. There are small swirls and scratches on the bezel and the case, and there is a small gash in one of the bracelet links which I got from rock climbing with the watch. No scratches on the backside glass or the crystal. The watch was serviced in June 2019, and a receipt of the service is included. Originally, the watch is from 2015, and the original warranty card, manual etc. are also included. So all in all, this is a full set in good condition. The bracelet is sized for my under-17cm wrist, but five spare links are included for larger wrists. Case size is 37mm, 19mm bracelet.
As far as I am aware, there are only a few of these in all of Europe, as these are Japanese Domestic Models which were made in very small numbers. So no chance of running into one of these in an elevator
I am asking 13000SEK (used to be 16000SEK) delivered to Sweden / EU. Face to face is unfortunately not possible, as I live in Finland. Paypal works for the payment, as does bank transfer – Swish, however, does not work outside of Sweden. Trades are also ok depending on the watch.
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