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Tag Heuer Grand Carrera Calibre 17 rs150

Diskussion i 'Recensioner & Köpguider' startad av Chrisse, 29 maj 2013.

  1. Chrisse
    Trådstartare

    Chrisse The King of Jesters

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    Artikelnummer: CAV518H
    Beskrivning: RS150 Limiterad till 150 pcs
    Urverk: ETA base 2894-2 med Dubois-Depraz chronografmodul
    Boett: Titan
    Urtavla: Svart
    Glas: Sapphire
    Armband: Aligator
    Mått: 43mm
    Vattentät till: 100 meter

    Tänkte mig egentligen ingen review, men såg det fanns så lite skrivet om TH och inget alls i denna sektion om Grand Carrera, så varför inte skriva ned lite åsikter och dra med lite bilder. Sedan jag registrerade mig på KS har jag vid flera tillfällen fått försvarat TH’s innovativa design och utmärkta kvalitet, främst från förståsigpåare som helt enkelt inte vet bättre. Då jag haft en rad olika TH och nu senast 3 olika Grand Carrera, kan jag ju i alla fall skriva lite om dem.

    Började skriva en egen historie-sammanfattning, men tog för lång tid fläta yngsta dotterns hår, så fick bli tidseffektiv och låna historia från nätet. Rekommenderar er läs detta, speciellt om du är TH skeptisk, får mkt kött på benen:

    TAG Heuer is based in Neuchâtel, Switzerland and is led by President and CEO John-Christophe Babin. Jack Heuer, the great grandson of the founder, is the Honorary Chairman. TAG Heuer maintains a watchmaking workshop in Cornol, Switzerland and a watchmaking factory in La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland. The TAG Heuer slogan is "Swiss Avant-Garde Since 1860"

    1860 through 1880s
    TAG Heuer traces its roots to 1860 when Edouard Heuer founded Uhrenmanufaktur Heuer AG (English: Heuer Watchmaking Inc.) in St-Imier, Switzerland.
    Edouard Heuer patented his first chronograph in 1882 and in 1887 patented an 'oscillating pinion' still used by major watchmakers of mechanical chronographs.

    1910s
    In 1911, Heuer received a patent for the "Time of Trip", the first dashboard chronograph. Designed for use in automobiles and aircraft, two large hands mounted from the center pinion indicate the time of day, as on a traditional clock. A small pair of hands, mounted at the top of the dial (12 o'clock position) indicates the duration of the trip (up to 12 hours). A top-mounted crown allows the user to set the time; a button mounted in that crown operates the start / stop / reset functions of the "duration of trip" counter.
    Heuer introduced its first wrist chronograph in 1914. The crown was at the 12 o'clock position, as these first wrist chronographs were adapted from pocket chronographs. In 1916, Heuer introduced the "Micrograph", the first stopwatch accurate to 1/100 of a second. This model was soon followed by the "Semikrograph", a stopwatch that offered 1/50 of a second timing, as well as a split-second function (which allows the user to determine the interval between two contestants or events).

    1930s and 1940s
    In 1933, Heuer introduced the "Autavia", a dashboard timer used for automobiles and aviation (whence its name, from "AUTos" and "AVIAtion"). The companion "Hervue" was a clock that could run for eight days without being wound. Over the period from 1935 through the early 1940s, Heuer manufactured chronographs for pilots in the Luftwaffe, known as "Flieger" (pilots) chronographs. The earlier version featured a hinged-back case and one pusher (for start / stop / reset); the later version had a snap-back case and added a second pusher (for time-in and time-out). All these Flieger chronographs had two-registers, with a capacity of 30 minutes.".
    In the mid-1940s, Heuer expanded its line of chronographs to include both two- and three-register models, as well as a three-register chronograph that included a full calendar function (day / date / month). As the highest development of Heuer's chronographs, these "triple calendar" chronographs were offered in stainless steel, 14 carat gold 18 and 22 carat gold cases. Dial colors were white, black or copper.

    1950s
    In the early 1950s, Heuer produced watches for the American retailer Abercrombie & Fitch. The "Seafarer" and "Auto-Graph" were unique chronographs produced by Heuer to be sold by Abercrombie & Fitch. The "Seafarers" had special dials—with blue, green and yellow patterns—that showed the high and low tides. This dial could also be used to track the phases of the moon. Heuer produced a version of the "Seafarer" for sale under the Heuer name, with this model called the "Mareographe". The "Auto-Graph" was produced in 1953 and 1954, and featured a tachymeter scale on the dial and a hand that could be preset to a specific point on the scale. This allowed a rally driver or navigator to determine whether the car was achieving the desired pace, over a measured mile. Advertisements and literature also pointed out that this hand could be rotated to count golf scores or other events.

    Auto dashboard timers
    From 1911, Heuer manufactured timepieces to be mounted on the dashboards of automobiles, aircraft and boats. These clocks and timers included a variety of models, designed to address specific needs of racers and rallyists. In 1958, Heuer introduced a new line of dashboard timepieces, which included the Master Time (8-day clock), the Monte Carlo (12-hour stopwatch), the Super Autavia (full chronograph), Sebring (60-minute, split-second timer) and Auto-Rallye (60-minute stopwatch). Heuer continued to manufacture these dashboard timepieces into the 1980s, at which time they were discontinued. Heuer also introduced timing devices for ski and motor racing events, including Formula One.

    1960s
    From the 1950s to the 1970s, Heuers were popular watches among automobile racers, both professionals and amateurs. Heuer was a leading producer of stopwatches and timing equipment, based on the volume of its sales, so it was only natural that racers, their crews and event sponsors began to wear Heuer's chronographs. Special versions of Heuer chronographs were produced with logos of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, as well as the names or logos of racing teams or sponsors (for example, Shelby Cobra, MG and Champion Sparkplugs).
    In 1962, Heuer became the first Swiss watchmaker in space. John Glenn wore a Heuer stopwatch when he piloted the Mercury Atlas 6 spacecraft on the first US manned space flight to orbit the earth. This stopwatch was the back-up clock for the mission and was started manually by Glenn 20 seconds into the flight. It is currently on display at the San Diego Air and Space Museum.
    The Autavia chronograph was introduced in 1962 and featured a rotating bezel, marked in either hours, minutes, decimal minutes (1/100th minute increments) or with a tachymeter scale. All manual-wind Autavias from the 1960s had a black dial, with white registers. Early cases had a screw-back and later models (from and after 1968) had snap-backs. The "Autavia" name had previously been used on Heuer's dashboard timers (described above).
    The Carrera chronograph, designed by Jack Heuer, was introduced in 1963. The Carrera had a very simple design, with only the registers and applied markers on the dial. The fixed inner bezel is divided into 1/5 second increments. The 1960s Carreras were available with a variety of dials, including all-white, all-black, white registers on a black dial, and black registers on a black dial. A three-register, triple calendar version of the Carrera was introduced around 1968.
    Most of Heuer chronographs from this period—including the Autavias and Carreras—used movements manufactured by Valjoux, including the Valjoux 72 movement (for a 12-hour chronograph) and the Valjoux 92 movement (for a 30-minute or 45-minute chronograph). The Valjoux 72 movement utilized a 'tri-compax' design, with three registers on the dial—one register for the chronograph hours (at the bottom), one register for the chronograph minutes (at the right), and a third register for a continuously running second hand (at the left). The second hand for the chronograph was mounted on the center pinion, along with the time-of-day hands.
    Heuer acquired the "Leonidas" brand in the early 1960s, with the combined company marketing watches under the "Heuer-Leonidas" name. One of the designs that Heuer acquired from Leonidas was the "Bundeswehr" chronograph, used by the German air force. These "BWs" feature a 'fly-back' mechanism, so that when the chronograph is reset to zero, it immediately begins running again, to time the next segment or event.

    World's first automatic chronographs
    Commencing in the mid-1960s, Heuer was part of a partnership (with Breitling and Hamilton) that sought to introduce the world's first automatic chronograph. Seiko (a Japanese watch manufacturer) and Zenith (a Swiss watch manufacturer) were also seeking to be the first to offer these chronographs. These projects were conducted in secret, as none of the competitors wanted the other companies to be aware of their efforts. Most agree that the Heuer-Breitling venture was first to introduce their new line of automatic chronographs to the world wide market, with Heuer-Breitling-Hamilton holding lavish press conferences in Geneva and New York, on 3 March 1969, to show their new lines of chronographs.
    Heuer's first automatic chronographs were the Autavia, Carrera and Monaco. These were powered by the Cal 11 and Cal 12 movements (12-hour chronograph); Cal 14 movement (12-hour chronograph and additional hand for GMT / second time-zone) and the Cal 15 movement (30-minute chronograph). Unusually, the winding crown was on the left, with the pushers for the chronograph on the right. The earliest of Heuer's Cal 11 chronographs (from 1969) were named "Chrono-Matic". In the early 1970s, Heuer expanded its line of automatic chronographs to include the Daytona, Montreal, Silverstone, Calculator, Monza and Jarama models, all of them powered by the Caliber 11 movement.
    Several of the automatic Heuer chronographs powered by the Caliber 11 series of movements are associated with automobile racing and specific drivers. Steve McQueen wore a blue Monaco in the 1971 movie, Le Mans (with this model now referred to as the "McQueen Monaco") and Swiss Formula One star Jo Siffert customarily wore a white-dialed Autavia with black registers. In 1974, Heuer produced a special version of the black-dialed Autavia that was offered by the Viceroy cigarette company, in a special promotion for $88. The Viceroy advertisements for this promotion featured racer Parnelli Jones, this version of the Autavia got to be called the "Viceroy".

    1970s
    In 1975, Heuer introduced the Chronosplit, a digital chronograph with dual LED and LCD displays. Later versions featured two LCD displays.
    Heuer began using the Valjoux 7750 movement in its automatic chronographs, with the Kentucky and Pasadena models (both introduced in 1977). The Valjoux 7750 movement was a three-register chronograph (with seconds, minutes and hours), that also offered day / date windows.
    In the mid-1970s, Heuer introduced a series of chronographs powered by the Lemania 5100 movement. The Lemania 5100 movements have the minute hand for the chronograph on the center pinion (rather than on a smaller register), greatly improving legibility. The Lemania 5100 movement is considered very rugged and has been used in a variety of chronographs issued to military pilots. There are ten models of Heuer chronographs powered by the Lemania 5100—Reference 510.500 (stainless steel), 510.501 (black coated), 510.502 (olive drab coated), 510.503 (pewter coated), 510.511 (Carrera dialed acrylic crystal PVD finish), 510.523 (Carrera dialed acrylic crystal stainless steel), as well as models with the names Silverstone (steel case with black dial) and Cortina (steel case with blue dial); the Reference 510.543 was made for the A.M.I. (Italian Air Force) and a special edition (with no reference number marked on the case) was made for AudiSport.

    1980s
    TAG Heuer was formed in 1985 when TAG (Techniques d'Avant Garde), manufacturers of high-tech items such as ceramic turbochargers for Formula One cars, acquired Heuer.

    1990s
    On 13 September 1999 TAG Heuer accepted a bid from LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton S.A. of SwFr1.15 billion (£452.15 million) (US$739 million) contingent upon a transfer of 50.1% of stocks.

    2013
    In 2013, TAG Heuer celebrated the 50th anniversary of the Carrera, the racing-inspired Chronograph that forms a key part of the TAG Heuer range today. There have been 10 generations of Carrera since its introduction, and models launched in every decade since 1963.

    Det som inte framgår I ovan stulna stycke historia:
    TH har under de senaste 10 åren kommit med dels det 100% inhouse 1887 verket (vilket visade sig inte vara 100% inhouse då de baserar det på Seiko’s 6S37-calibre) men också med de precisions-kronografer som följer:
    * Mikrograph och MikroTourbillon mäter ned till hundradelar, jobbar mao I 50HZ, 100 “tick” I sekunden, haft nöjet klämma (lyssna) på en sådan, rätt häftigt.
    * Mikrotimer mäter ned till tusendelar, och om det inte vore nog:
    * Mikrogirder mäter ned till 1/10000 dels sekund, häpnandsväckande 7.200.000 vph, se video från youtube nedan som summerar lite av TH’s kronografer när det kommer till precision:



    Nog med trams och historia, nu lite egna tankar om TH och de modeller jag haft nöjet att bära.
    TH spänner over stor vidd, från billiga kvarts-ur till betydligt mer påkostade mekniska kronografer.

    Kort summering av mina TH’s:
    Carrera Calibre 16, date 41mm racing chrono – gillade inte denna, den satt inget vidare på handleden
    Carrera Calibre 16, day-date 43mm Titan, denna var häftig och bar skönt, men har inte den kvar så kan inte skriva så mkt mer.
    Sen har jag haft 3 st Grand Carrera, varav en är kvar.
    Grand Carrera tilltalar inte alla, de sticker ut med en speciell design, särskilt då Calibre 36, se bilder nedan:

    Först den sedan länge sålda Grand Carrera Calibre 17 RS2
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    Saknade den så köpte två andra, Calibre 36 Ti2 och Calibre 17 RS150 (där RS150 finns kvar än idag)
    Notera de matta aligatorbanden, de skönaste skinnbanden jag någonsin stött på.
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    Skulle kunna summera lite snabbt, TH anser jag vara kraftigt underskattade, de producerar klockor med utmärkt kvalitet, speciellt då deras lite högre “line”. Grand Carrera håller utmärkt kvalitet och detalj-finnish. Sen att de även släpper lite billigare klockor, så betyder det inte att alla liggerpå den nivån.
    TH har mkt nytt tänkande, ny design och kul lösningar. TH har nått för alla.
     
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  2. Kenneth W

    Kenneth W Torpare

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    Kul att hitta lit eskrivet om Grand Carrera!
    Har själv en GC RS 2, Calibre 17 och är supernöjd. gedigen, snygg o pålitlig.

    Tack!

    Hälsningar
    Kenneth

     
    Chrisse gillar detta.
  3. Isodor

    Isodor Partyprinsen från Säffle

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    Min far har en hel del dinkor med RS2:an får nog mest handledstid i vardagen av dem alla.

    Jag gillar den skarpt och trycker också finishen är till stor del bra. Bättre än min Calibre 16.

    Deras nya Mikrogrinders ser ju ruskigt snabba ut :D

    Nackedelen med Calibre 16 är i mitt tyckte 7750 ETA som låter vääldigt mycket när den rör på sig.

    Hursomhelst riktigt trevliga dinkor i den högre linen.

    Vill även rekommendera deras senaste Carrera som har Zeniths El Primero och som både är retro och modern, otroligt snygg.
     
    Chrisse gillar detta.
  4. Wi

    Wi The Insideman

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    Riktigt bra skrivet. Skaffade precis en GC cav511b..Otroligt fin och gedigen klocka!
     
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  5. AndyK

    AndyK Stadsbo

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    Håller med. Ett mer underskattat märke är svårt att hitta (skulle möjligtvis vara Certina). Gillar deras lite kantiga formspråk och nya lösningar.
     
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  6. Singular

    Singular Företag Forumsponsor

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    Vete fan om Certina är så underskattat. Kung på den tronen tror jag faktiskt att Girard-Perregaux är...

    Fin genomgång av GC!
     
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  7. Bingoraalf

    Bingoraalf Biskop

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    Aa, nästan som en riktig Zenith ;)
     
  8. par

    par Friends of KS

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    Riktigt bra inlägg. Fantastiska färger som bryter av i klockorna! Man blir lätt lite hemmablind i Rolle träsket=)
     
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    tudors Bonde

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    Snygg recension!
     
  10. paradis

    paradis Friends of KS

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    Ser detta först nu, så bra skrivet ,sammanfatat , otroligt vackra klockor.....tack ...!!!!!!!
     
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    Tack för bra info!
     
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    Jimmy_Vegas Torpare

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  13. Fixoflex

    Fixoflex Friends of KS

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    Tack för sammanställningen! Tycker den är riktigt läcker för att vara ny:)
     
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    Helsvart=helrätt