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Tillbaka från service lagom till Speedy Tuesday. Ha en snabb tisdag! 
fordprefect
Basic
Hmm, sa någon speedy tuesday?
äntligen är man med i gänget!
äntligen är man med i gänget!
Vad tycker Speedy-tråden om denna? https://klocksnack.se/threads/omega-speedmaster-861-fabriksrenoverad-44-8k.142517/
Är det big NO när den är fabriksrenoverad? Känns som att mycket måste gjorts för att få en klocka från 70/80-talet i ett sådant skick.
Är det big NO när den är fabriksrenoverad? Känns som att mycket måste gjorts för att få en klocka från 70/80-talet i ett sådant skick.
Notera att den finns i Schweiz, dvs utanför EU. 25% moms tillkommer då.
Ja det är jag medveten om. Tänkte mer om den inte är värd pengarna då den är renoverad och ej orörd? Antar att Omega sätter på tritium precis som originalet när de renoverar? Så att den kommer få en sån där fin krämig patina?
Personligen förstår jag inte varför man ”renoverar” en klocka på så sätt att i stort alla tidstypiska attribut försvinner. Exakt vad som ”försvunnit” är svårt att säga eftersom det utifrån infon ”cal 861” kan röra sig om rätt många referenser. Som nyast kan den väl vara ’96 och bör alltså oavsett ha haft tritium på tavla och visare som exempel. Framgick det inte tidigare från annonsen vilken ref det var?
Hur som - jämförelser kan göras med både hus- och bilrenoveringar tycker jag. Inget fel att renovera om det görs med fingerspitzgefühl men är det nytt man vill ha så är det nytt man ska köpa. Att ”renoverat” sen skulle betinga premium jämfört med bevarat originalskick får väl objektivt ses som fel? Förutsatt att detta rör sig om en 80/90talare i grunden får man en schysst sådan för 5-10k mindre än den länkade. Det är kanske inte direkt överförbart på husliknelsen dock
I kort - otroligt synd eftersom all charm är borta. För den pengen kan man lika bra köpa en 005.
Edit: såg din andra post nu - ingen tritium på den tavlan och även visarna ser nya ut. I stort en 005 med gammalt utverk och 1171..
/J
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Slazenger7
Basic
Äntligen får man vara med här. Glad tisdag! 
Tack för grymt bra svar!! Riktigt tråkigt att den är totalrenoverad, håller med dig om att man lika gärna kan köpa en 005a isåfallPersonligen förstår jag inte varför man ”renoverar” en klocka på så sätt att i stort alla tidstypiska attribut försvinner. Exakt vad som ”försvunnit” är svårt att säga eftersom det utifrån infon ”cal 861” kan röra sig om rätt många referenser. Som nyast kan den väl vara ’96 och bör alltså oavsett ha haft tritium på tavla och visare som exempel. Framgick det inte tidigare från annonsen vilken ref det var?
Hur som - jämförelser kan göras med både hus- och bilrenoveringar tycker jag. Inget fel att renovera om det görs med fingerspitzgefühl men är det nytt man vill ha så är det nytt man ska köpa. Att ”renoverat” sen skulle betinga premium jämfört med bevarat originalskick får väl objektivt ses som fel? Förutsatt att detta rör sig om en 80/90talare i grunden får man en sådan för Det är kanske inte direkt överförbart på husliknelsen dock
I kort - otroligt synd eftersom all charm är borta. För den pengen kan man lika bra köpa en 005.
Edit: såg din andra post nu - ingen tritium på den tavlan och även visarna ser nya ut. I stort en 005 med gammalt utverk och 1171..
/J
Härlig färg på bandet, vart kommer det ifrån?Första ST för mig på några år. Ha en trevlig tisdag!
Norda
Silver
Atelier Romane. Har för mig det heter nåt i stil med "Tuscany"
Detta kan man aldrig stirra sig mätt påDark side of the 105.012
ClownenJac
Silver
Glömde bort att det var tisdag igår! Kör en bild idag istället. Trevlig onsdag!
Tjena,
hopps det är okej att jag ”lånar” tråden lite för en Seamaster fråga då jag inte hittar någon sådan tråd på KS.
har köpt en mid-size Seamaster från 1998 i ett otroligt bra skick. Ref 196.1522.
Hittar inte många till salu direkt så har inte så mycket att gå på.
Men vilket värde skulle vara rimligt för klockan?
Mvh
Jonas
hopps det är okej att jag ”lånar” tråden lite för en Seamaster fråga då jag inte hittar någon sådan tråd på KS.
har köpt en mid-size Seamaster från 1998 i ett otroligt bra skick. Ref 196.1522.
Hittar inte många till salu direkt så har inte så mycket att gå på.
Men vilket värde skulle vara rimligt för klockan?
Mvh
Jonas
Bilagor
Sebastard
Diamant
Testa i denna tråd istället
Vad är ett rimligt pris för....? (värde / värdering)
Tycker ni denna är värd 55k? Har blivit relumd. 1974, polerad. Skulle undersöka den väldigt noga. Kan vara en ommålad tavla. Låter billigt för en riktig Explorer.
klocksnack.se
Finns en tråd om Seamaster Professional här (man måste veta att den kallas SMP på klocknördspråk:
Upprop! Omega SMP, alla som har eller har haft en!
Var hos urmakaren igen som plockade bort en halvlänk (har inga verktyg) men nu är claspen inte centrerad på handleden. Ser det inte skevt ut eller är det bara att acceptera med denna länken? Hämtade klockan lite hastigt så la inte märke till det förutom att den satt perfekt. Någon som vet om det...
klocksnack.se
Prismässigt för en kvartsare, skulle gissa på runt 10 tusen om den såldes på KS i gott skick. Från handlare på Chrono24, 12-15 tusen efter prutning.
Tack, lägger frågan där också!Finns en tråd om Seamaster Professional här (man måste veta att den kallas SMP på klocknördspråk:
Upprop! Omega SMP, alla som har eller har haft en!
Var hos urmakaren igen som plockade bort en halvlänk (har inga verktyg) men nu är claspen inte centrerad på handleden. Ser det inte skevt ut eller är det bara att acceptera med denna länken? Hämtade klockan lite hastigt så la inte märke till det förutom att den satt perfekt. Någon som vet om det...
Prismässigt för en kvartsare, skulle gissa på runt 10 tusen om den såldes på KS i gott skick. Från handlare på Chrono24, 12-15 tusen efter prutning.
Vill slå ett slag för @Eldflugan gedigna och vackra klockhållare! Det mörka trät gifter sig med den vackra Omegan 
Bilagor
Läste en intressant artikel i dag, på brittiska The Telegraph om Speedmaster, för den intresserade.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/...um=Edi_Lux_New20210217&utm_campaign=DM1338215
ByTracey Llewellyn16 February 2021 • 11:46am
When the Apollo 11 crew took "one small step for man" on 20 July 1969, the Omega Speedmaster was right there with them
In 1957, Omega launched a trilogy of tool watches designed to meet the needs of three groups of men. For divers, there was the Seamaster; for train drivers the Railmaster; and for motor racers, the Speedmaster. While all three proved to be successful in their own fields, the Speedmaster would go on to capture the imagination of the world 12 years later, when it became the first (and so far, the only) watch to go to the Moon.
An exercise of lean design, the Speedmaster was a timepiece with a lot of firsts, from the signature outer tachymeter scale that made the dial clearer and more legible, to the stylish black dial and silver accents that were based on the dashboards of Italian racing cars. It was sturdy, amagnetic and as waterproof as possible for the time.
According to Daniel Somlo, executive director of Somlo London, the world’s only official Omega vintage store, “the watches were sought after right from the beginning – much more so than previous chronographs. They weren’t cheap, in fact they were quite a fancy thing. People only bought chronographs if they actually needed to time something, whether this was drivers and lap ties or doctors and pulses.”
Omega’s brand heritage manager Petros Protopapas agrees: “At launch, the Speedmaster was expensive,” he says. “Watch-spotting didn’t exist but, if a man entered a room wearing a Speedie, people would know instantly that he was a driver. It was definitely a statement of profession rather than fashion.”
Since that first model, the watch has never gone out of production and the past five years or so have seen interest in the Speedmaster sky rocket. This is thanks, in no small part, to research and story-telling by Omega itself, as well as the myriad websites and blogs dedicated to both the brand and the Speedmaster family of watches. But, despite the huge prices on many rarer models, Speedmasters – both new and vintage – are still affordable for the majority of enthusiasts, with Protopapas saying that he doesn’t believe auction prices have peaked yet.
With hundreds of variants available, below is a guide to the ten top milestone models of the Omega Speedmaster.
The original model, prices for the CK 2915 have risen rapidly in recent years. Somlo refers to it as the grail for collectors saying, “only 3-4,000 of them were ever made and, as tool watches, a lot of them didn’t survive. So, to find one in close to original condition is difficult.” You would be hard pressed today to find a good example for less than £150,000, while Phillips sold a 1958 model for more than CHF400,000 (approx. £325,000) in 2018.
The second generation Speedmaster, the CK 2998, is a slightly refined version of the original with the same case and Calibre 321 movement, but with design tweaks including the removal of the arrow on the hour hand and the black tachymeter making the watch sleeker and easier to read.
This was before Omega was officially involved with NASA and astronauts who wanted to have chronographs as back-up timers bought them privately, with Walter Schirra and Leroy Cooper, both members of the original Mercury Seven, plumping for the CK 2998. A popular model among collectors, expect to pay in the region of £40,000 for a good, early model.
The third generation Speedmaster, the ST105.003, is possibly the most important model in Speedmaster history. Unbeknown to Omega HQ, NASA had asked the brand’s US distributor to supply three watches. The third-generation models with Calibre 321 were sent and secretly tested against other timepieces. The Speedmaster passed all of the tests and was recorded as "flight qualified".
It is this model that was worn, in 1965 by Ed White on the Gemini 4 mission that included the first US spacewalk. As chronographs were more popular by the mid 1960s, there a lot more of these models around, meaning they can be picked up for about £20,000 and, according to Protopapas, Somlo, and others, they have great potential to rise in value.
The fourth generation Speedmaster is the model that most closely resembles today’s Moonwatch. For the first time, we saw the asymmetric case, where the right side is slightly thicker than the left, acting as a crown protector. This is also when the word “Professional” appeared on the dial for the first time – although it has often been reported that this didn't happen until after NASA testing in 1964, research by Protopapas and his team has revealed that it in fact the word was added several months before the NASA call-in.
It was during the change over from third to fourth generation that NASA ordered around 90 Speedmasters. A mixed batch was sent containing 30-or-so third and about 60 fourth generation Speedies (all with Calibre 321). For the Apollo 11 moon landing, all three issued watches were from the fourth generation. Prices currently range from around £16-17,000.
In 1968 the Speedmaster was given a new movement, Calibre 861. It introduced a cam/shuttle system for operating the chronograph, which was more economical to produce and easier to service that the column-wheel used in Calibre 321. ST145.022 is the Speedmaster that all subsequent Moonwatches were based on until 2020.
With a much higher production than previous models, this is not a Speedmaster for aficionados, but it is a great starting point for new collectors – especially with the discontinuation of Calibre 861 this year, meaning that no more will ever be produced. Still classed in the 'affordable' category, the watches trade for an average £6-10,000.
As a tribute to the Apollo 11 mission, and the crew’s “giant leap for mankind”, Omega organised a gala reception to which it invited astronauts Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins, as well as NASA ground staff and the White House.
A 1,014-piece, limited-edition Moonwatch was created in gold with a burgundy tachymeter scale, the first 30 pieces had their casebacks engraved with the name of selected recipients. The first two were dedicated to President Nixon and Vice President Agnew, but the gifts were declined due to their value. The Nixen watch now resides in the Omega Museum in Biel. A 50th anniversary reissue in 2019, raised interest in these models and you would be lucky to find an original today for less than £60,000.
With unique social and political significance, the Speedmaster Apollo-Soyuz model was made to commemorate the first time Soviet Cosmonauts wore Speedmasters – an occasion that came about when NASA and the Soviet space programme worked together in 1975.
A poignant moment came when astronauts from East and West met and shook hands on the neutral ground of outer space – a symbol that many saw as the beginning of the end of the Cold War. An Italian distributor asked Omega to commemorate the mission, and a small edition of Speedmasters, featuring a dedicated dial and caseback. Hard to find, and often faked, it is thought that less than 500 pieces were made. If you are able to find one today, expect to pay in the region of £45,000.
The ref. 3578.51 was one of Omega's first limited editions. The brand's connection to Snoopy – depicted in a subdial at nine o'clock and again on the caseback – dates back to 1970 when the Speedmaster was awarded NASA's prestigious Silver Snoopy Award, given to those who have contributed to flight safety on space missions. Omega’s award was in recognition of the role a Speedmaster played in timing rocket ignition for re-entry to Earth after a system malfunction aboard Apollo 13. Since 2003, there have been two further models celebrating Snoopy, including the Co-Axial Master Chronometer Chronograph 42mm "Silver Snoopy Award" in the current brand line-up. A total of 5,441 pieces of the original were made and at first sold slowly but today, the watch represents the importance of the Speedmaster, and current prices reflect this with models in good condition fetching up to £20,000.
In 2012, Robert-Jan Broer, founder of watch blog Fratello Watches, posted a picture of his Speedmaster Professional. The day was Tuesday and his image was accompanied by a #speedytuesday – the hashtag being quickly adopted by the global watch community. This was one of the first times the watch world witnessed the power of digital and social media so, in acknowledgement of the growing online community, and as a symbol of the fusion of past and future, Omega agreed to make a watch, which was sold via Fratello. Only 2,012 pieces of the watch were made and all were sold within hours. Today the originals are trading hands for up to £9,000.
This year, has seen the launch of the next generation Speedmaster with a new Co-Axial Master Chronometer movement. Inspired by Apollo 11’s ST 105.012, the watch has the classic, asymmetrical case, step dial, and dot over 90 (DON) on the anodised-aluminium bezel. The watch will also feature a new movement with the Co-Axial Master Chronometer Calibre 3861, which is certified to the highest standards of precision and anti-magnetism, and a new, five-link, integrated bracelet. The Master Chronometer Speedmaster is available in eight models in stainless steel, pink Sedna gold or white Canopus gold. From £5,100.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/...um=Edi_Lux_New20210217&utm_campaign=DM1338215
Omega's iconic Moonwatch is a collector's dream, and there are still some affordable vintage models
A renewed focus on space travel has ignited interest in the NASA-approved Omega Speedmaster - and prices are on the riseByTracey Llewellyn16 February 2021 • 11:46am
When the Apollo 11 crew took "one small step for man" on 20 July 1969, the Omega Speedmaster was right there with them
In 1957, Omega launched a trilogy of tool watches designed to meet the needs of three groups of men. For divers, there was the Seamaster; for train drivers the Railmaster; and for motor racers, the Speedmaster. While all three proved to be successful in their own fields, the Speedmaster would go on to capture the imagination of the world 12 years later, when it became the first (and so far, the only) watch to go to the Moon.
An exercise of lean design, the Speedmaster was a timepiece with a lot of firsts, from the signature outer tachymeter scale that made the dial clearer and more legible, to the stylish black dial and silver accents that were based on the dashboards of Italian racing cars. It was sturdy, amagnetic and as waterproof as possible for the time.
According to Daniel Somlo, executive director of Somlo London, the world’s only official Omega vintage store, “the watches were sought after right from the beginning – much more so than previous chronographs. They weren’t cheap, in fact they were quite a fancy thing. People only bought chronographs if they actually needed to time something, whether this was drivers and lap ties or doctors and pulses.”
Omega’s brand heritage manager Petros Protopapas agrees: “At launch, the Speedmaster was expensive,” he says. “Watch-spotting didn’t exist but, if a man entered a room wearing a Speedie, people would know instantly that he was a driver. It was definitely a statement of profession rather than fashion.”
Since that first model, the watch has never gone out of production and the past five years or so have seen interest in the Speedmaster sky rocket. This is thanks, in no small part, to research and story-telling by Omega itself, as well as the myriad websites and blogs dedicated to both the brand and the Speedmaster family of watches. But, despite the huge prices on many rarer models, Speedmasters – both new and vintage – are still affordable for the majority of enthusiasts, with Protopapas saying that he doesn’t believe auction prices have peaked yet.
With hundreds of variants available, below is a guide to the ten top milestone models of the Omega Speedmaster.
1957: Speedmaster CK 2915
The original model, prices for the CK 2915 have risen rapidly in recent years. Somlo refers to it as the grail for collectors saying, “only 3-4,000 of them were ever made and, as tool watches, a lot of them didn’t survive. So, to find one in close to original condition is difficult.” You would be hard pressed today to find a good example for less than £150,000, while Phillips sold a 1958 model for more than CHF400,000 (approx. £325,000) in 2018.
1959: Speedmaster CK 2998
The second generation Speedmaster, the CK 2998, is a slightly refined version of the original with the same case and Calibre 321 movement, but with design tweaks including the removal of the arrow on the hour hand and the black tachymeter making the watch sleeker and easier to read.
This was before Omega was officially involved with NASA and astronauts who wanted to have chronographs as back-up timers bought them privately, with Walter Schirra and Leroy Cooper, both members of the original Mercury Seven, plumping for the CK 2998. A popular model among collectors, expect to pay in the region of £40,000 for a good, early model.
1963: Speedmaster ST 105.003
The third generation Speedmaster, the ST105.003, is possibly the most important model in Speedmaster history. Unbeknown to Omega HQ, NASA had asked the brand’s US distributor to supply three watches. The third-generation models with Calibre 321 were sent and secretly tested against other timepieces. The Speedmaster passed all of the tests and was recorded as "flight qualified".
It is this model that was worn, in 1965 by Ed White on the Gemini 4 mission that included the first US spacewalk. As chronographs were more popular by the mid 1960s, there a lot more of these models around, meaning they can be picked up for about £20,000 and, according to Protopapas, Somlo, and others, they have great potential to rise in value.
1963-1968: Speedmaster ST 105.012-ST 145.012
The fourth generation Speedmaster is the model that most closely resembles today’s Moonwatch. For the first time, we saw the asymmetric case, where the right side is slightly thicker than the left, acting as a crown protector. This is also when the word “Professional” appeared on the dial for the first time – although it has often been reported that this didn't happen until after NASA testing in 1964, research by Protopapas and his team has revealed that it in fact the word was added several months before the NASA call-in.
It was during the change over from third to fourth generation that NASA ordered around 90 Speedmasters. A mixed batch was sent containing 30-or-so third and about 60 fourth generation Speedies (all with Calibre 321). For the Apollo 11 moon landing, all three issued watches were from the fourth generation. Prices currently range from around £16-17,000.
1968: Speedmaster ST 145.022
In 1968 the Speedmaster was given a new movement, Calibre 861. It introduced a cam/shuttle system for operating the chronograph, which was more economical to produce and easier to service that the column-wheel used in Calibre 321. ST145.022 is the Speedmaster that all subsequent Moonwatches were based on until 2020.
With a much higher production than previous models, this is not a Speedmaster for aficionados, but it is a great starting point for new collectors – especially with the discontinuation of Calibre 861 this year, meaning that no more will ever be produced. Still classed in the 'affordable' category, the watches trade for an average £6-10,000.
1969: Gold Speedmaster Professional Apollo XI BA145.0 22
As a tribute to the Apollo 11 mission, and the crew’s “giant leap for mankind”, Omega organised a gala reception to which it invited astronauts Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins, as well as NASA ground staff and the White House.
A 1,014-piece, limited-edition Moonwatch was created in gold with a burgundy tachymeter scale, the first 30 pieces had their casebacks engraved with the name of selected recipients. The first two were dedicated to President Nixon and Vice President Agnew, but the gifts were declined due to their value. The Nixen watch now resides in the Omega Museum in Biel. A 50th anniversary reissue in 2019, raised interest in these models and you would be lucky to find an original today for less than £60,000.
1976: Speedmaster Apollo-Soyuz ref. 145.022
With unique social and political significance, the Speedmaster Apollo-Soyuz model was made to commemorate the first time Soviet Cosmonauts wore Speedmasters – an occasion that came about when NASA and the Soviet space programme worked together in 1975.
A poignant moment came when astronauts from East and West met and shook hands on the neutral ground of outer space – a symbol that many saw as the beginning of the end of the Cold War. An Italian distributor asked Omega to commemorate the mission, and a small edition of Speedmasters, featuring a dedicated dial and caseback. Hard to find, and often faked, it is thought that less than 500 pieces were made. If you are able to find one today, expect to pay in the region of £45,000.
2003: Speedmaster Snoopy Award ref. 3578.51
The ref. 3578.51 was one of Omega's first limited editions. The brand's connection to Snoopy – depicted in a subdial at nine o'clock and again on the caseback – dates back to 1970 when the Speedmaster was awarded NASA's prestigious Silver Snoopy Award, given to those who have contributed to flight safety on space missions. Omega’s award was in recognition of the role a Speedmaster played in timing rocket ignition for re-entry to Earth after a system malfunction aboard Apollo 13. Since 2003, there have been two further models celebrating Snoopy, including the Co-Axial Master Chronometer Chronograph 42mm "Silver Snoopy Award" in the current brand line-up. A total of 5,441 pieces of the original were made and at first sold slowly but today, the watch represents the importance of the Speedmaster, and current prices reflect this with models in good condition fetching up to £20,000.
2017: Speedmaster Speedy Tuesday Limited Edition 311.32.42.30.01.001
In 2012, Robert-Jan Broer, founder of watch blog Fratello Watches, posted a picture of his Speedmaster Professional. The day was Tuesday and his image was accompanied by a #speedytuesday – the hashtag being quickly adopted by the global watch community. This was one of the first times the watch world witnessed the power of digital and social media so, in acknowledgement of the growing online community, and as a symbol of the fusion of past and future, Omega agreed to make a watch, which was sold via Fratello. Only 2,012 pieces of the watch were made and all were sold within hours. Today the originals are trading hands for up to £9,000.
2021: Speedmaster Co-Axial Master Chronometer Chronograph 42mm ref. 310.30.42.50.01.001
This year, has seen the launch of the next generation Speedmaster with a new Co-Axial Master Chronometer movement. Inspired by Apollo 11’s ST 105.012, the watch has the classic, asymmetrical case, step dial, and dot over 90 (DON) on the anodised-aluminium bezel. The watch will also feature a new movement with the Co-Axial Master Chronometer Calibre 3861, which is certified to the highest standards of precision and anti-magnetism, and a new, five-link, integrated bracelet. The Master Chronometer Speedmaster is available in eight models in stainless steel, pink Sedna gold or white Canopus gold. From £5,100.
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Eldflugan
Basic
Tack!Vill slå ett slag för @Eldflugan gedigna och vackra klockhållare! Det mörka trät gifter sig med den vackra Omegan
