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Känslan av att ta stanna upp och kolla på klockan.
Sen måste man bara ta ett kort för att den är så fin
Instämmer
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Tack för att ni är med och skapar Skandinaviens bästa klockforum!
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Tudortråden
- Trådstartare Ernesto
- Start datum
Instämmer
essenceofallthingsgood
Silver
Northflagen är väl 40mm. I den sitter mt5621
Visserligen med betydande lägre vattenskydd,
Jag vet inte hur stor skillnad det verket har för diametern, däremot tjockleken.
Men ska det klämmas dit en heliumventil och tjockt glas kan den nog inte bli så mycket tunnare. Tänker att det skulle bli som en 116600.. i titan..
Det vore mumma.. men har svårt att se det hända!
oliver90
Basic
Haha jag har kommit på mig själv flera gånger att jag kollar på klockan, men en sekund senare minns jag inte vad tiden var, utan bara "kollade" på klockanKänslan av att ta stanna upp och kolla på klockan.
Sen måste man bara ta ett kort för att den är så fin
Har fått upp mitt intresse i sådan klocka. Vet inte exakt vilken referens jag vill ha osv men har ni någon trevlig sida man kan läsa skillnaderna mellan dem etc? Har börjat gilla dem skarpt....
Någon prisbildning? Bör fundera på? Årsmodell etc... tacksam för alla svar
Oj, det var länge sedan jag hade koll på dessa klockor. Minnet är som en guldfisk.
Men ska försöka minnas så gott det går.
Modellen finns i tre generationer, big block, pre-tiger och tiger.
Big block är dyrare och mer eftertraktade, dom har en fetar boett. Har för mig det är samma urverk i alla generationer???
Big block vs pre-tiger
Fjärde siffran i refnumnter är vilken typ av vridvring klockan har, se nedan
Sen vet jag att tidiga pre-tiger ser lite annorlunda ut än vanliga pre-tiger.
Sen finns tiger, men det ska du inte ha
Lycka till
Tudor har en förvånande bra genomgång själva.
https://www.tudorwatch.com/magazine/article/tudor-history-chronographs-1976-to-1991
Läs den och den följande artikeln om 1995 och framåt så får du en bra bild. Finns även om de tidigare Montecarlo-varianterna.
I mina egna efterforskningar för en tidig Tudor Chronograph så sammanställdes nedan, genom diverse sidor så jag hoppas infon stämmer.
Tyckte att Tudor själva kunde haft bättre information kring sin historik. Nedan text är direkt snodd från webben.
Series 1, or the 7000 Series (Refs 7031 & 7032) was made between 1970 and 1972. It’s a dual register, manual wind (Valjoux 7734) with a date window at 6 o’clock and a Rolex cyclops date magnifier. They featured square crown guards similar to the first 7920 Submariners and was offered on the same folded link Oyster bracelet (7836). These were not Big Blocks.
Series 2, was the 7100 Series (Refs 7149, 7159, 7169) made from 1971 to about 1976. The production years overlapped with the Series 1. These too were manual wind (Valjoux 234) with the date window at 6 o’clock and offered with more dial and bezel combinations - rotating and fixed bezels in stainless steel or Bakelite with tachymeter or minute markers. These were offered on solid link Oyster bracelets (78360). These were not Big Blocks.
Series 3 was introduced in 1976 and the first of the authentic Big Blocks with an enlarged Oyster case to accommodate the winding rotor of the new automatic movement (Valjoux 7750). This 9400 Series introduced the now iconic three sub registers and the date window at 3 o’clock.
While the Exotic Dials of the Series 2 were available, the now iconic Panda dial was added and featured in promotional catalogs. An enamel Panda was also made in very small numbers, as was the “albino” with silver dial and white sub-dials (good luck finding one of these unicorns).
The exact end of production for the Series 3 is not known but thought to have run into the late 1980s. Some time in the early 1980’s the 94300 emerged (this is distinct and not to be confused with the 9430/0). The production years of the 9430 and 94300 overlapped.
Like the series before it the 94300 was the last to feature the engraved Rolex Oyster case back and the last to offer as an option, a Rolex bracelet and deployant clasp with the coronet.
Series 4 (refs. 79100) were only available in two colors with no exotic dials. The three references are differentiated by their bezel. These were the last of the Big Blocks. All Series 4 feature the same design cues as the 94300 it replaced — OYSTERDATE next to the date window and “Automatic — Chrono Time” above the hour sub-register. Early Series 4 also had the applied, beveled hour markers from the 94300 but these were phased out before the series came to an end. As did the border around the date aperture and the Rolex engraved case back and bracelet clasp with Rolex coronet.
The 79100 series was superseded by the 79200. These were not Big Blocks with their slimmer and more rounded cases.
In 1995, with the introduction of the series of 79200 references, the appearance of the Prince Oysterdate self-winding chronograph was rethought subtly but significantly. To begin with, the case, which over three generations of chronographs had essentially retained its famous imposing, sharp presence, became more refined and softer. Keeping a highly recognisable silhouette, it now presented to the eye softer lines consisting of curves and rounded configurations.
Three more notable changes marked the design of this fourth generation: a new characteristic dial, silver with cream-coloured counters, was introduced, a black anodised aluminium insert with a transfer replaced the traditional Plexiglas tachymetric-scale bezel insert, and a sapphire crystal with a Cyclops lens was adopted to replace the Plexiglas crystal.
Its movement remained the self-winding Valjoux calibre 7750 in a substantially improved version. Its finishing was characteristic and benefitted from a particular aesthetic effort. Entirely refreshed, its decor was called “special TUDOR”. Its rotor was no longer decorated with transfer marking, but engraved and gilded. Its screws were now polished rather than matt.
In 1996, the company Montres TUDOR S.A. celebrated its 50th anniversary. Having attained its maturity, the brand was now known in all markets. Thus the direct references to Rolex were gradually disappearing from the cases, winding crowns and bracelets of TUDOR watches.
Tyckte att Tudor själva kunde haft bättre information kring sin historik. Nedan text är direkt snodd från webben.
Series 1, or the 7000 Series (Refs 7031 & 7032) was made between 1970 and 1972. It’s a dual register, manual wind (Valjoux 7734) with a date window at 6 o’clock and a Rolex cyclops date magnifier. They featured square crown guards similar to the first 7920 Submariners and was offered on the same folded link Oyster bracelet (7836). These were not Big Blocks.
Series 2, was the 7100 Series (Refs 7149, 7159, 7169) made from 1971 to about 1976. The production years overlapped with the Series 1. These too were manual wind (Valjoux 234) with the date window at 6 o’clock and offered with more dial and bezel combinations - rotating and fixed bezels in stainless steel or Bakelite with tachymeter or minute markers. These were offered on solid link Oyster bracelets (78360). These were not Big Blocks.
Series 3 was introduced in 1976 and the first of the authentic Big Blocks with an enlarged Oyster case to accommodate the winding rotor of the new automatic movement (Valjoux 7750). This 9400 Series introduced the now iconic three sub registers and the date window at 3 o’clock.
While the Exotic Dials of the Series 2 were available, the now iconic Panda dial was added and featured in promotional catalogs. An enamel Panda was also made in very small numbers, as was the “albino” with silver dial and white sub-dials (good luck finding one of these unicorns).
The exact end of production for the Series 3 is not known but thought to have run into the late 1980s. Some time in the early 1980’s the 94300 emerged (this is distinct and not to be confused with the 9430/0). The production years of the 9430 and 94300 overlapped.
Like the series before it the 94300 was the last to feature the engraved Rolex Oyster case back and the last to offer as an option, a Rolex bracelet and deployant clasp with the coronet.
Series 4 (refs. 79100) were only available in two colors with no exotic dials. The three references are differentiated by their bezel. These were the last of the Big Blocks. All Series 4 feature the same design cues as the 94300 it replaced — OYSTERDATE next to the date window and “Automatic — Chrono Time” above the hour sub-register. Early Series 4 also had the applied, beveled hour markers from the 94300 but these were phased out before the series came to an end. As did the border around the date aperture and the Rolex engraved case back and bracelet clasp with Rolex coronet.
The 79100 series was superseded by the 79200. These were not Big Blocks with their slimmer and more rounded cases.
In 1995, with the introduction of the series of 79200 references, the appearance of the Prince Oysterdate self-winding chronograph was rethought subtly but significantly. To begin with, the case, which over three generations of chronographs had essentially retained its famous imposing, sharp presence, became more refined and softer. Keeping a highly recognisable silhouette, it now presented to the eye softer lines consisting of curves and rounded configurations.
Three more notable changes marked the design of this fourth generation: a new characteristic dial, silver with cream-coloured counters, was introduced, a black anodised aluminium insert with a transfer replaced the traditional Plexiglas tachymetric-scale bezel insert, and a sapphire crystal with a Cyclops lens was adopted to replace the Plexiglas crystal.
Its movement remained the self-winding Valjoux calibre 7750 in a substantially improved version. Its finishing was characteristic and benefitted from a particular aesthetic effort. Entirely refreshed, its decor was called “special TUDOR”. Its rotor was no longer decorated with transfer marking, but engraved and gilded. Its screws were now polished rather than matt.
In 1996, the company Montres TUDOR S.A. celebrated its 50th anniversary. Having attained its maturity, the brand was now known in all markets. Thus the direct references to Rolex were gradually disappearing from the cases, winding crowns and bracelets of TUDOR watches.
humlegarden
Basic
Intressant läsning. Tack!I mina egna efterforskningar för en tidig Tudor Chronograph så sammanställdes nedan, genom diverse sidor så jag hoppas infon stämmer.
Tyckte att Tudor själva kunde haft bättre information kring sin historik. Nedan text är direkt snodd från webben.
Series 1, or the 7000 Series (Refs 7031 & 7032) was made between 1970 and 1972. It’s a dual register, manual wind (Valjoux 7734) with a date window at 6 o’clock and a Rolex cyclops date magnifier. They featured square crown guards similar to the first 7920 Submariners and was offered on the same folded link Oyster bracelet (7836). These were not Big Blocks.
Series 2, was the 7100 Series (Refs 7149, 7159, 7169) made from 1971 to about 1976. The production years overlapped with the Series 1. These too were manual wind (Valjoux 234) with the date window at 6 o’clock and offered with more dial and bezel combinations - rotating and fixed bezels in stainless steel or Bakelite with tachymeter or minute markers. These were offered on solid link Oyster bracelets (78360). These were not Big Blocks.
Series 3 was introduced in 1976 and the first of the authentic Big Blocks with an enlarged Oyster case to accommodate the winding rotor of the new automatic movement (Valjoux 7750). This 9400 Series introduced the now iconic three sub registers and the date window at 3 o’clock.
While the Exotic Dials of the Series 2 were available, the now iconic Panda dial was added and featured in promotional catalogs. An enamel Panda was also made in very small numbers, as was the “albino” with silver dial and white sub-dials (good luck finding one of these unicorns).
The exact end of production for the Series 3 is not known but thought to have run into the late 1980s. Some time in the early 1980’s the 94300 emerged (this is distinct and not to be confused with the 9430/0). The production years of the 9430 and 94300 overlapped.
Like the series before it the 94300 was the last to feature the engraved Rolex Oyster case back and the last to offer as an option, a Rolex bracelet and deployant clasp with the coronet.
Series 4 (refs. 79100) were only available in two colors with no exotic dials. The three references are differentiated by their bezel. These were the last of the Big Blocks. All Series 4 feature the same design cues as the 94300 it replaced — OYSTERDATE next to the date window and “Automatic — Chrono Time” above the hour sub-register. Early Series 4 also had the applied, beveled hour markers from the 94300 but these were phased out before the series came to an end. As did the border around the date aperture and the Rolex engraved case back and bracelet clasp with Rolex coronet.
The 79100 series was superseded by the 79200. These were not Big Blocks with their slimmer and more rounded cases.
In 1995, with the introduction of the series of 79200 references, the appearance of the Prince Oysterdate self-winding chronograph was rethought subtly but significantly. To begin with, the case, which over three generations of chronographs had essentially retained its famous imposing, sharp presence, became more refined and softer. Keeping a highly recognisable silhouette, it now presented to the eye softer lines consisting of curves and rounded configurations.
Three more notable changes marked the design of this fourth generation: a new characteristic dial, silver with cream-coloured counters, was introduced, a black anodised aluminium insert with a transfer replaced the traditional Plexiglas tachymetric-scale bezel insert, and a sapphire crystal with a Cyclops lens was adopted to replace the Plexiglas crystal.
Its movement remained the self-winding Valjoux calibre 7750 in a substantially improved version. Its finishing was characteristic and benefitted from a particular aesthetic effort. Entirely refreshed, its decor was called “special TUDOR”. Its rotor was no longer decorated with transfer marking, but engraved and gilded. Its screws were now polished rather than matt.
In 1996, the company Montres TUDOR S.A. celebrated its 50th anniversary. Having attained its maturity, the brand was now known in all markets. Thus the direct references to Rolex were gradually disappearing from the cases, winding crowns and bracelets of TUDOR watches.
I mina egna efterforskningar för en tidig Tudor Chronograph så sammanställdes nedan, genom diverse sidor så jag hoppas infon stämmer.
Tyckte att Tudor själva kunde haft bättre information kring sin historik. Nedan text är direkt snodd från webben.
Series 1, or the 7000 Series (Refs 7031 & 7032) was made between 1970 and 1972. It’s a dual register, manual wind (Valjoux 7734) with a date window at 6 o’clock and a Rolex cyclops date magnifier. They featured square crown guards similar to the first 7920 Submariners and was offered on the same folded link Oyster bracelet (7836). These were not Big Blocks.
Series 2, was the 7100 Series (Refs 7149, 7159, 7169) made from 1971 to about 1976. The production years overlapped with the Series 1. These too were manual wind (Valjoux 234) with the date window at 6 o’clock and offered with more dial and bezel combinations - rotating and fixed bezels in stainless steel or Bakelite with tachymeter or minute markers. These were offered on solid link Oyster bracelets (78360). These were not Big Blocks.
Series 3 was introduced in 1976 and the first of the authentic Big Blocks with an enlarged Oyster case to accommodate the winding rotor of the new automatic movement (Valjoux 7750). This 9400 Series introduced the now iconic three sub registers and the date window at 3 o’clock.
While the Exotic Dials of the Series 2 were available, the now iconic Panda dial was added and featured in promotional catalogs. An enamel Panda was also made in very small numbers, as was the “albino” with silver dial and white sub-dials (good luck finding one of these unicorns).
The exact end of production for the Series 3 is not known but thought to have run into the late 1980s. Some time in the early 1980’s the 94300 emerged (this is distinct and not to be confused with the 9430/0). The production years of the 9430 and 94300 overlapped.
Like the series before it the 94300 was the last to feature the engraved Rolex Oyster case back and the last to offer as an option, a Rolex bracelet and deployant clasp with the coronet.
Series 4 (refs. 79100) were only available in two colors with no exotic dials. The three references are differentiated by their bezel. These were the last of the Big Blocks. All Series 4 feature the same design cues as the 94300 it replaced — OYSTERDATE next to the date window and “Automatic — Chrono Time” above the hour sub-register. Early Series 4 also had the applied, beveled hour markers from the 94300 but these were phased out before the series came to an end. As did the border around the date aperture and the Rolex engraved case back and bracelet clasp with Rolex coronet.
The 79100 series was superseded by the 79200. These were not Big Blocks with their slimmer and more rounded cases.
In 1995, with the introduction of the series of 79200 references, the appearance of the Prince Oysterdate self-winding chronograph was rethought subtly but significantly. To begin with, the case, which over three generations of chronographs had essentially retained its famous imposing, sharp presence, became more refined and softer. Keeping a highly recognisable silhouette, it now presented to the eye softer lines consisting of curves and rounded configurations.
Three more notable changes marked the design of this fourth generation: a new characteristic dial, silver with cream-coloured counters, was introduced, a black anodised aluminium insert with a transfer replaced the traditional Plexiglas tachymetric-scale bezel insert, and a sapphire crystal with a Cyclops lens was adopted to replace the Plexiglas crystal.
Its movement remained the self-winding Valjoux calibre 7750 in a substantially improved version. Its finishing was characteristic and benefitted from a particular aesthetic effort. Entirely refreshed, its decor was called “special TUDOR”. Its rotor was no longer decorated with transfer marking, but engraved and gilded. Its screws were now polished rather than matt.
In 1996, the company Montres TUDOR S.A. celebrated its 50th anniversary. Having attained its maturity, the brand was now known in all markets. Thus the direct references to Rolex were gradually disappearing from the cases, winding crowns and bracelets of TUDOR watches.
Intressant läsning. Trevligt att ni kunde bidra med info. I princip vad jag sökte efter. 79160 var nog en av dem finaste bland dem.
Betydligt dyrare också verkar det som.
Får kika lite mer på det.
Tack för hjälpen!
Har haft SMPc och gått i exakt samma tankarBörjar gå i tankarna över att byta ut min SMPc mot en North Flag.
Någon här i tråden som äger eller har ägt en North Flag som kan dela med sig lite tankar och synpunkter?
Jag hittade ingen North Flag i tid så det blev annat istället men jag vill definitivt ha en North Flag någon gång. Fantastiskt cool klocka!
Den är stört cool! Kikat på den lite av och till, men inte riktigt hittat rätt när känslan funnits där. Men nu, nu jäklar känner jag att det börjar bli dags!Har haft SMPc och gått i exakt samma tankar
Känner igen det där suget
Kör hårt! Den är grym. Och lite kul med en mindre vanlig klocka!
Gabriel90
Silver
Parkera utanför butiken.. parkering kostar lika mycket som en p-bot
Gabriel90
Silver
Lätt bästa färgkombon
Instämmer
Bilagor
Åskviggen
Silver
Tycker faktiskt att Nato gjorde sig bättre på bild!
Det får bli Nato några dagar
Torsdag!
EmilSve
Basic
Jäklar vilken tavla!
EmilSve
Basic
Vad är det för referens på seikon?Lite snygga bilder bara...
Här hittar du en hel del info om flingorna: https://klocksnack.se/threads/tudor-snowflake-en-överblick.86157/Det gör mig nästan ännu mer förvirrad, vad är det som gör snowflakes speciella?Gjordes det en begränsad upplaga eller liknande?
Det som gjort att de stuckit iväg i pris är nog en kombination av att de är relativt ovanliga och att några av de trendsetters som finns där ute i klockvärlden bestämde sig för att det här är the shit. Lite samma utveckling som på Paul Newman (mer sällsynta), röd-subbar (inte alls sällsynta, globalt) osv.
Men sedan ÄR dom ju dessutom sjukt coola och snygga tycker jag.
Senast ändrad:
...har börjat skriva på en djupgående översikt av Big Block men är långt ifrån klar. @Back har nästan gjort jobbet klart nu!
Min ganska rejäla research visar på detta, om du är i köptagen:
Det finns VÄLDIGT gott om Big Block till salu i Europa (chrono24) med prisbild 45-80tkr. I USA är de klart mer sällsynta (fler köpte Daytona i stället?) och i Sverige är de väldigt svåra att hitta.
Det är endast "Series 3" och Series 4 (ref till Backs inlägg ovan) som är "riktiga" Big Block. De tidigare är inte självuppdragande (mer slimmad boett) och de senare är också lite mer slimmade och har safirglas.
Tycker mig ana en sbdc053.
Spännnande att läsa ditt material när du har det klart!...har börjat skriva på en djupgående översikt av Big Block men är långt ifrån klar. @Back har nästan gjort jobbet klart nu!
Min ganska rejäla research visar på detta, om du är i köptagen:
Det finns VÄLDIGT gott om Big Block till salu i Europa (chrono24) med prisbild 45-80tkr. I USA är de klart mer sällsynta (fler köpte Daytona i stället?) och i Sverige är de väldigt svåra att hitta.
Det är endast "Series 3" och Series 4 (ref till Backs inlägg ovan) som är "riktiga" Big Block. De tidigare är inte självuppdragande (mer slimmad boett) och de senare är också lite mer slimmade och har safirglas.
Tycker det dyker upp en hel del äldre Chronos från Japan. Nu kommer säkerligen de sticka i pris då Tudor nu gått in på marknaden med sina nya modeller och då blir gammalt populärt
sneJe
Basic
Har jag förstått det hela helt fel eller är inte BB58 också ett inhouseverk?Det är väl old news vid det här laget men här är lite jämförande bilder på BB inhouse och BB58.
